New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. It often takes on naked and abused women, as well as frightening men, because Jay has just been the victim of sexual assault. She appears unaware of anything peculiar occurring. Ha! I had never thought of the water being a representation for purity/chastity, and it makes sense. He is not concerned with the monster. I can't remember if they clarify that it can be passed on via non consensual acts, or what age a victim has to be but one would assume it can be passed to anyone. The It followers were just random manifestations of the person seeing them's mind's eye or were they someone who had died from it before? Blood is splattered but it does not even flinch. He could very well be another relative. Also your theory is a lot simpler and I like it more than the OP's. This extension explains little of the larger questions the movie presents, while requiring additional explanation. At the end of the film Jay and Paul, despite attempting to live monogamously, are still followed. This is a place for fans of various creative works to share theories, interpretations and speculation related to that particular creative work. But there are other monsters too, and a number of threats that could have targeted them. On the way to the pool, Yara offers the following monologue, with very little motivation: “When I was a little girl my parents would not allow me to go south of 8th mile. Kind of like, "Hey, I was playing a long game here, but this is so much better!". Her breasts are exposed because he’s afraid of her, for reasons that will soon become clear. In a Reddit thread debunking the darker and creepier sides of some our favorite cartoons, a … The race finishes in a 3-way tie, and the movie goes from there. My Hero Academia: 5 Reddit Fan Theories That Are Fun But Unlikely (& 5 That Could Be True) My Hero Academia is a popular anime, and with its success comes the creation of fan theories on Reddit as viewers speculate what comes next. In essence, it's the Superego - Paul, who shoots her "Father" in the head. … Because he told her the monster will sometimes appear as someone close to you, she is now imposing that idea onto the monster. It is my favorite film of the year so far. In the movie everything is retro-80s because that's what has come back into style. Traveling to a place “in the mists” could have referred to a realm connected to ours, just on a different plane. There is such a strange air to the film's visual design - it would be cool if it wasn't just there to be eerie/a throwback to 80s horror films (which is where the whole 'slutty one dies first' trope comes from). Thus, everything he knows about the monster is through his own experience. Up until now, the monster likely didn’t realize Paul is an incubus. That's how I saw it too, particularly noted by the lack of adults. Universal Studios. When he first suggests sleeping over, both immediately respond, “No!” On some level, they sense there is something off about him, and though they’ve known him since childhood they do not trust him. The father no doubt hadn't been a part of the vicious cycle. Though there is something unique about Paul, his wielding of the gun makes no difference, as the first time he shoots the monster it does not even flinch. Even Hugh's parents seemed to care. On Earth they've been replaced with changelings. Reddit had especially taken interest in this season, considering it was missing longtime cast members, Cameron, Naomi, and Chelsea. Whatever helps it get close to you.”. Like let's say Jay has the infection and lives her whole life just running away from it. This has two purposes: to show off to Jay such that she'll feel indebted to him and understand he can defend himself (unlike Greg); and to reveal his true nature to the monster. .34 Jay is not electrocuted, because Paul telekinetically depowers the electronics as they’re thrown into the pool. The monster is not dead. Old Woman in gown – this one is trickier, but I think it’s a feeling of mortality Jay has on initial reflection of the trauma she’s just experienced. Actually, I do believe the kids are in Hell. She is his slave, and may even realize this afterward. I believe that he assumed it was his mother before actually realizing it was just some random woman/It. It is suggested they are now in a relationship. In the final shot, she appears distressed and uncertain of her future. In the same way, if you take the sex in the movie and make it symbolic for the act of procreation, this ties in well. Drax cannot see things that do not move, and realizing this about himself gives him the "invisibility" … But that is SO scary, to live with 'it' your entire life, so your instinct is to have sex to 'pass it along'. It can only take on the form of people that have previously been infected by It. Thus, allowing Jay to destroy that visage of males and permit her to trust her morality. My Hero Academia: 5 Reddit Fan Theories That Are Fun But Unlikely (& 5 That Could Be True) My Hero Academia is a popular anime, and with its success comes the creation of fan theories on Reddit as viewers speculate what comes next. demons in hell. Plus with Hugh/Jeff saying it can take the form of people close to you, we have to assume he's seen people he knows too. Yes, the kids have been kidnapped from various decades, and are now unknowingly living their lives in a town in Hell. In this Fan Theory, I seek to answer the question of whether or not Lightning could have gotten tires and still won the race, or if taking fuel only was his sole path to victory, as he seemed to believe. I thought that like everyone said in here there are lots of interesting things about this film; bit felt like it fell down in a couple of ways: The scene with the pool felt awful clunky and hackneyed; and at time just felt like an opportunity to film the girls bathed in pool light a la music videos from the 1990s. Something that stuck out that I do not have answers for. By Paul at the pool, while it is in the form of Jay’s father, through its hand and into its temple. That was hundred percent a good idea and she would have supported it. One that involves … Yara (on beach) – at his point, Jay is realizing the monster is real. I think allowing other people to interact with the monster makes it a lot less scary, like surely then she can prove to the police or government or just anyone that these things actually exist and can somehow get comfort from that; while if it was present only to her but could still kill or harm her; that would've given it a sense of helpless terror that would've been much scarier for me. I know it’s a boring theory, but it’s simple and adds a nice twist. fear of males (specifically her father). Greg is from the 80s, evidenced by his clothing and hairstyle. Jay and Kelly reference their mother when the monster breaks in. Also, I don’t think the scary kid on the beach was the peeping tom. Annie calls her father before dying. Jay’s parents are not present after she is sexually assaulted and summons the police. I’m not certain what to think of this. It is merely the specific threat the kids face throughout the film. If not believing in the monster prevents it from manifesting, Hugh/Jeff should not have ever been followed as he was not warned of its existence, assuming he is telling the truth about how he acquired it. This is backed up by the fact that it appears as both Abby and Greg. They're afraid of their never-present parents because their parents are demons tasked with raising these useless humans in case a purpose for them ever presents itself. If the monster could choose its form, it would likely not choose the forms it does. Why it happens so late in her life could be chalked up to the fact that it's written by a male or that it's an homage to Carrie. It's not invincible. Idk, that's what I got from it. Cheating is a bit strong. Top 5 IT Fan TheoriesSubscribe: http://goo.gl/Q2kKrD and also Ring the Bell to get notified // Have a Top 10 idea? Of course, among the Toy Story theories are dark takes. It scared the crap out of me but I'm planning to go see it again next week. Other fans take it a step further, asserting the show's events are unfolding from the afterlife nightmares of just one of the characters — but which one remains to be seen. Height.” More on Jay’s father, and why he is so frightening, later. Paul is then seen driving past prostitutes, but it is not clear if anything further occurred. A minute later, Jay can see a whole lot of blood filling the pool, but the monster is nowhere in sight. One of my main takeaways was how you can never be sure of someone's motives in those intimate moments, as in are they having the same intent as you or are they just treating you as an object. While Elf (2003) seems like an innocent Christmas film on its surface, it's actually a giant allegory … Reddit user Itsyaboisj’s theory follows this theme and asserts that the people in the sky, the creatures we cannot see, and the souls of the dead all live within that universe. Anything to add? It certainly ignored the rules that it previously followed by disappearing in the pool. Greg’s wardrobe and hair style appears even older, potentially 80s. The Ego is the part of the brain that manages to appeal in reality. Right after she has intercourse with Paul, she looks down to her underwear in the mirror and we cut to a red-ball hitting the window. Paul - The Superego - the morality. There's images of the naked adults I already mentioned and the pornographic magazines as an entree in the sexual world but without any vocabulary or emotional framework to deal with them. It separates two neighborhoods in the town—basically one side of 8 Mile is the “bad side of town.” There’s nothing significant about it. And I used to think about how shitty and weird that was. 3.) But if people stopped having sex, they'd no longer procreate, and death would eventually cease to exist. He's been working on Jay, Kelly, and Yara for a while now, but when Jay is targeted by the monster he sees his chance and jumps on it. *2. I know I'm late to the party on this one. She died and Hugh began to see It again, so he went out and found someone new, in Jay. The theory states that this all ties into the Nostradamus theory that the world would end in 1999. -I almost thought it was mimicking a time period that would carry throughout the film, but there are many cars, outfits of other people that disprove this. Sid's Dad Is An Alcoholic. An incubus is a male sex demon, whose purpose is to enslave a woman through manipulating her into sex. This seemed like it lowered the tone and made the film closer to more commercially aimed horror films that this isn't. Both go into the house. With Lisa Vanderpump as the ring leader, Vanderpump Rules continues to get better and better with each passing season. In the movie you don't have any adult figures providing guidance and "it" is exceedingly ill defined and compelling and and seen only by the initiated. The kids have all been kidnapped from various decades by demons, and are unknowingly living out their lives in a town in Hell. I just saw this film like an hour ago! Jay opts to carry "it" to three male stereotypes whom she wishes to harm and Hugh keeps changing his name (his real name is discovered to be Jeff). Yeah, totally think the STD thing is in there, too. Naked Woman (when Jay is tied up) – a representation of Jay’s own vulnerability. By Ritwik Mitra Published Aug 13, 2020. Surprisingly enough, there aren’t many fan theories about this show, but in 2015, there was one on Reddit which surmised that King Arthur may have been the very first Librarian and that Avalon was, in fact, the Library. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. Back to Jay’s father (I keep my promises): After witnessing Greg murder by the form of his mother, Jay has it in her head that the monster may appear as a parent. Where and when does the movie actually take place? I believed the "It" to be the incoming adulthood. The visual representation of them as literally just about the surface. The metaphor is great and clearly present and intentional, but does little to explain what's actually going on. I personally think it's possible she had passed It along, had tried to like Jay and her friends did, like Hugh did. To prepare for the third season's Oct. 10 premiere, here are some compelling, though as-yet unconfirmed, Riverdale fan theories to flex those Bughead-inspired detective muscles. It's a pretty good atmospheric horror film, definitely with flaws, but I'd heard talk about surreal gaps in logic added to the setting that enhance the nightmare feeling, so I wanted to give it another shot. She has just witnessed her friend’s death, for which she is responsible, and that initial image lingers in her mind. Because Kelly is there, there is also a strong possibility Jay is protecting her sister from the memories of their demon father. Annie (on beach while Jay escapes) - Note that upon looking at discussions online, I'm pretty sure this isn't Annie and that I was mistaken, however my conclusions still check out. The demon children that have replaced our human protagonists on the surface have a greater purpose in this swap. Also, Jay’s father may have been killed by It at some point in the past. Quick Refresher of Who's Who (because why remember little things like names): Jay Height: Lead protagonist, played by Maika Monroe. However, they’re not dead. Now that Jay's soul is owned by this incubus, the monster has most likely returned to following Hugh/Jeff. She has just met with Hugh/Jeff again and is reflecting on his warning. Why did it avoid the water so much? This page lists fan theories about the television series Ed, Edd N Eddy. I briefly considered bringing this theory one step further, and suggesting the monster is not its own being, but entirely a manifestation of its victims subconscious. Even when Jay passes it onto Greg, Paul’s response is “Why did you choose Greg?” He is less concerned that she is safe, or that he is safe, or that Greg is not, and more concerned that he did not sleep with the girl. However, this does not entirely work. There's a reason why it's often illustrated as such. I'm not sure what the director is trying to say if my interpretation is right, but I couldn't shake the idea. Now with that bit of background info dealt with, onto my fan theory. The monster’s form is instead determined by the victim’s own subconscious. Any answers or theories are much appreciated! He does not. I guess my question is by having sex in order to procreate, how would it stop them from being followed? Why does the monster choose the forms it does? There is a precedent for this in mythology: a changeling is a supernatural child (could be a fairy, demon, or anything) that is swapped at birth with a human counterpart, unknown to the parents. Did the things following her have to be cartoony ghoulish people who had teeth falling out and were pissing everywhere? Still with me? I considered it’s limbo, but – let’s face it – that’s boring and used. I'm wondering about their identities and how they relate to Jay. He's weaker, friendzoned and often acts as the voice of "conscience" throughout the film. Saw It Follows last night, and while I was initially a lil underwhelmed, it keeps creeping back into my mind (it follows :o]), and now I can't stop thinking about it! Inherently, it's about Jay Height's psyche embedded in fear of a.) Jay first attempts passing the monster to Greg, believing he can defend himself, but then witnesses it brutally murder him. Thus, the demon parents are now tasked with raising Jay, Kelly, Greg, and Yara, but are not too invested in the process and wish they had a cooler job. It has several opportunities, such as when breaking into Jay’s house, to take on the form of someone she expects to see. It’s about to get weirder. Greg is the stereotypical Alpha Male. It has to physically travel to places, but the speed at which it does that seems to vary, since it got to the beach house in a day, which was probably a multiple day walk for anyone. And I used to think about how shitty and weird that was. He calls It “Mom” before he even opens the door to look at it. I was with op completely till that point. I like that the director has been circumspect on what he thinks the movie is about. The Office is one of the most popular sitcoms ever and credited as the most streamed show on Netflix in 2020.Despite airing its last season in 2013, the show’s popularity never witnessed a fall, and this sustained interest shown by fans is one of the major reasons why there are elaborate fan theories on Reddit based on the different characters and subplots of the show. I just saw "It Follows" earlier today and (like many of us, I'm sure) I couldn't help but attempt to formulate a plan to escape the creature. He does not act as though he’s never done this before. Jay and Kelly’s father in particular was probably abusive. The water symbolism is throughout and, personally, rather blatant. -All of the things they want to throw into the pool are old: lamps, A TYPEWRITER, old tv's, the old pointy clothing iron that she gets hit with. After the release of RoboCop in 1987, many fans speculated about … Then presented her face-to-face with a malicious naked demon. Plus that old woman in the school scene was in a hospital gown, so maybe she died of old age, trying to prevent anyone else from getting 'it'? Technology and other items in the movie present a confused concept of time setting: There are many old cars, but newer cars are also mixed in. That makes the kid version creepier and sadder. He's hot and cool and if you notice, he always has an animal on his shirt - be it a Tiger or a Dragon. There is a reason the children’s parents won’t let them leave unsupervised, even for a few hours. By Ritwik Mitra Published Aug 13, 2020. The idea of sex can change a child into an adult. 2.) Many of them are wearing PJs/underwear, meaning they could have been killed either in their sleep or after having sex. Jay wasn't sexually assaulted. Appearing as naked people in broad daylight causes it to stand out and alert its victim of its presence. It is an interesting theory, especially when there's already precedence in the show's canon for unnecessary relatives, like Zuko and Azula being the great-grandchildren of Roku. Naked Old Man (on Jay’s roof while she leaves for pool), Hugh/Jeff explains, “It could look like someone you know or it could be a stranger in a crowd. There is something special about this town. The movie just shows this on an individual scale. Is "Get Out" just an imagined scenario of Rod the TSA Agent? Her strange choice of wearing underwear and high-heels leaves me at a loss. My method: *1. The same thought occurred to me while I was watching it, but the look was too prolonged I felt. On the movie's scale, same thing: when you have sex, you're passing on 'it', but if everyone who was ever infected with 'it' became abstinent for their entire lives, 'it' would eventually run its course, right? This would also explain why it takes so long to kill Greg – he does not believe in the monster, until Paul, Kelly, and Yara place doubts in his head. Eventually, Jay dismisses the Ego and the Id for the Superego at the end, a kind of "moral awakening" for her is achieved. I could add more to this, but I am unable to currently. And I did not even know what that meant until I got a little older. Yara is from the late 2010s (after the movie’s release), evidenced by her strange phone and nostalgic eyeglasses. We meet Hugh/Jeff’s mother at his house. On a grander scale, death will always exist, and we're just outrunning it, we can never conquer it. I'm also trying to figure out why the people that "follow" can appear as anyone they might know or have known before. The man in the photo that is her dad, is the appearance that IT took on in the pool. There were no clear adult figures in the movie, except for the mother who was shown as an out-of-the-way alcoholic. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the FanTheories community. Scary Kid (on beach while invading beach house) - EDIT: It's been pointed out by nathanathanathan that this is one of the kids peeping at Jay earlier in the film. He is a true resident of Hell, a monster himself just like the monster that follows them. And while some theories are too far-fetched, others seem like real possibilities, further increasing the excitement … The parents are often away doing demon things, and the kids are used to them appearing and disappearing without explanation. Annie: The girl killed in the movie's opening, played by Bailey Spry. Annie is from the late 2000s, evidenced by her cell phone. Most Toy Story fans already know about Sid's cameo appearance in Toy Story 3 as a garbage man. I think one of the key strengths of this film is its vagueness is theme in this regard, its actually pretty exciting opening this discussion and seeing how 'It' represents something but many viewed it differently. It's clear that her father was abusive and left considerable trauma in her life. This is strange. They go on to further and explain the roles of certain characters like Mads Mikkelsen, Guillermo Del Toro, and Norman Reedus aka Sam. Still, if his mother is home she again does not respond. It is not coming after Jay. Paul is not one of the kidnapped changeling kids, but is a true resident of Hell who enslaves vulnerable women by manipulating them into sex. Are you ready for the final Band-Aid to be ripped off? I did briefly consider that Hugh might have been in a long term relationship with her. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. If so, why the little kid in the boat house/garage? Half-Naked Bruised Woman (at home break-in) – another reminder of Jay’s sexual assault. Also kind of like a cheaper action movie with the monster repeatedly throwing things at the girl in the pool. He is likely guilty over the women he’s led to their death, and fears this metaphor of innocence that the monster becomes. No offense OP... BTW, this movie fucked me up like no other movie ever did. Then, if she dies of old age, it passes on to that guy who gave it to her. hey, sorry i'm responding to this so late, but i've only just found this sub. That doesn't mean she passed It on to anyone else though(like the first girl we see at all) . Gilligan's Island is actually Hell. It flinches, releasing Jay, but we do not see if it gets back up. Adds a burdensome element to their sex life though haha. Someone thought a defenceless child would be the easiest way to pass on the curse. Jay’s teacher and the police, while not known parents, are some of the few adults shown. According to one fan theory by Reddit user Calabim, what terrifies the monsters is actually the Black Death. Jay’s fear of her father mixed with her realization the monster may assume that form allows it to assume that form. Hence her fear of males and her lack of a real male role model. Water has significant meaning here, though I'm not sure what. And if you think about it, the only REAL way to end 'it' is by ending procreation. They knew they had to mature and used each other to help in the process. In my head I felt they could be connected, that the man maybe passed It on the beaten woman in a rape. Jay's mother was seen as an alcoholic briefly and absent for most of the movie. With this theory, the kids have most likely never met their real parents – they are instead being raised by literal demons. It could be just to add the essence of comfort/ home for people. But it's entirely possible as you say she received but didn't pass It along and was killed by it. Just a theory of mine! I mean I had to ask permission to go to the state fair with my best friend and her parents only because it was a few blocks past the border.” Jay replies her mother wouldn’t let her past the border either. The Office is one of the most popular sitcoms ever and credited as the most streamed show on Netflix in 2020.Despite airing its last season in 2013, the show’s popularity never witnessed a fall, and this sustained interest shown by fans is one of the major reasons why there are elaborate fan theories on Reddit based on the different characters and subplots of the show. Just like it's instinct for humans to procreate, hence the ongoing existential struggle between life and death. … The monster does not choose its form. It again takes on Greg’s form after killing him – at this point, Jay is choosing its form. Some doors it just knocks on. However, she seemed to have a loving, but troubled relationship with her parents (or at least Dad) who cared for her, unlike the other main actors like Jay, Paul and Greg. She clearly was someone who received, but not passed It along. Where are all the adults throughout the film? But the kids being from different decades is very interesting. Any holes? And I started realizing that... that was where the city started and the suburbs ended. He is a demon, specifically an incubus. If it was truly immortal, it probably wouldn't have hesitated to jump in. Jay does escape the monster in the end, but only by running into the arms of a far worse monster: Paul, who is an incubus. But I may be way off. Please let me know. In Charade, Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant are being chased by three men who wish them harm while Cary Grant keeps changing his name. In a r/FanTheories post from Reddit, one fan theory posits that the reason Toph and Katara are such powerful benders at their young ages is that they're related to Avatars from the past. It's quite clear this is Jay's period - red and circular like a dot. They aren’t allowed to leave the town, because the city (beyond Eighth Mile) is true Hell. It is not even coming after Paul. It can be injured, but so far we can't tell if it can be killed. Just saw it as well, I had a few similar thoughts. It looked like her to me. There is a potential use for Jay, Kelly, Greg, and Yara as humans being raised by demons, but that use has not yet presented itself to the demons. The theory goes that Laurie, and not Michael, was the one responsible for the bus crash. Her response is what makes it significant: she is afraid of him, and refuses to tell her friends what form it’s taken. She has escaped her fate, but at what cost? 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